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Format: CD
Catalog: PFM Front Row Center
Misc.: Metal box package
Produced: 1997
Date: 710930
Matrix: Disc 1: MG4176 104660 IFPI LB6I
Cover: The cd comes in a tin can that is a square with rounded corners. It has a sticker on the top which has an astrological grid covered with a scene of outer space. The most obvious item on the cover is a purple ear. It appears to be a collage in the form of A Saucerful of Secrets. Later versions have Pink Floyd Meddler stamped on the front cover. It comes with an extremely informative 18 page book, which talks about the BBC shows, with the same cover as the tin container. Discs: The disc itself has, at the top, Front Row Center with 3 circles below it. On the right side it has Show #PFM For Radio Play Only. At the bottom it says Not For Sale, then in small print: This Broadcast is for one time use by stations cleared by FRC on the designated date and time prearranged in writing. This disc is property of FRC and must be returned after use.
Sources: 30 Sep 1971, Paris Cinema, London
Hires-coverscans: <no info>
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Tracks:

      Disc:  1
       1. Fat Old Sun                                         15:36 
       2. One of These Days                                    6:58 
       3. Echoes                                              26:24 
       4. The Embryo                                          10:32 
       5. Blues                                                5:24 
          Total Time:                                         64:54 

Band:
      Roger Waters 
      Nick Mason 
      David Gilmour 
      Rick Wright 

Xref:
Quality:
  • Sup -TS
Comments: The 'Floyds of London' roio has now been seen labelled as Pink Floyd Meddler with what looks like some kind of black inked rubber stamp. This perhaps confirms the rumour that Floyds of London is the 'original packaging' version of Meddler. Previous versions had no mention of Meddler at all.


This is one of the best ROIO's that I have in my collection. Before every song there is an announcement about the next title to be played. This performance, according to the booklet and commentation within the cd itself, was the first time the Floyd had expanded FOS. Also, they say that it was the first public performance of Echoes, after the album was released - I can not verify this, so I am only going by what the disc said. OoTD is different than what was released on the album, with Nick Mason saying his line after the entire song is over.


This specific concert was played on September 30, 1971, but was broadcasted on John Peel's "In Concert" program on October 12, 1971. According to the booklet this was an entire performance in front of a live audience, which you can hear between every track. The first three songs was taken from the master source, but Embryo and Blues was taken from a second generation copy to finish the show. This was done because the original broadcast was chopped in order to air the performace.


Never have I heard anything so clear as this BBC recording. The only way to tell it is not studio is by the crisp sound. This could most definitely be a legalized recording of old PF material. The ROIO is a MUST HAVE to any serious PF collecter! - TS


This is the packaging originally planned for the Meddler roio, but it's not from the person who supplied Meddler's master. At the time Meddler orders were being taken in advance, there were some problems with the production and a different manufacturer was chosen; so Meddler was sold in jewel boxes. The manufacturer whose deal fell through has now apparently copied it and sold it in a metal box.


Inside the box is a 20-page booklet. The booklet front duplicates the outside art, and the booklet back cover has the track list. Inside is the source information and a collection of photos. The quality is very good. This roio entry gets the title from a prominent phrase above the band portrait on page 3 and again above the concert photo on page 15, "THE FLOYD'S [sic] OF LONDON". There's no title on the disc itself, which is held by a very well-designed plastic tray insert. The CD has a white printed flame design and black text and logos. - OWL


Here is the complete text of the insert:


The Floyd's of London


As far as discerning Rock aficionados were concerned, the BBC was an institution made up of three smaller ones: "Top of the Pops," "The Old Grey Whistle Test," and "Top Gear" were three groundbreaking shows and key outlets for new music.


"Top of the Pops" was BBC-1's flagship Top-40 show. "The Old Grey Whistle Test" (BBC-2's TV alternative to the Top-40 format of "TOTP") was hosted by "Whispering" Bob Harris, who each week introduced a live studio session of some of Rock's classic acts. "Top Gear" hosted by John Peel, was the BBC Radio equivalent of "Whistle Test," the key difference between the shows being that John Peel's sessions usually featured a live audience.


Peel, at the time, was something of a maverick. Bucking the Top-40 format, he was more interested in promoting almost anything that was not in the mainstream, and had been a huge admirer of the Pink Floyd.


On the 25th of September and the 20th of December [1967], the Floyd performed many of their early classics live on John Peel's "Top Gear" show (each broadcast a week or so later). The latter session was the last in which the band would be accompanied by Sys Barrett, whose latest material, ("Vegetable Man," "Scream Thy Last Scream," and "Jugband Blues") began to indicate the eventual demise of his creative genius. His legendary daily doses of LSD certainly inspired him to write some of the most original psychedelic masterpieces this side of Sgt. Pepper, but was also inevitably a factor in his breakdown.


David Gilmour, an old mate of Syd's, made his BBC debut with the band on the 25th of June, 1968, on "Top Gear." Searching for a new musical direction, the Floyd started working on extended pieces, debuted many of these songs ("Murderistic Women," "Baby Blue Shuffle in D Major," "The Embryo,: et al) on this show and also later that year on the 2nd of December.


These two sessions illustrated how much the band had changed in such a short period of time. In 1967 they were trying to be psychedelic "pop stars," recalls Roger Waters. It didn't work out that way Two years later they were re-establishing a new niche for themselves, relying on touring and appearances on Peel's show as their main exposure to the public.


On the 16th of July, 1970, the Floyd made a landmark appearance on the "Peel Sunday Concert" from the Paris Cinema in London. Performing well developed versions of "The Embryo" and "Green is the Colour" seamlessly sequeing into "Careful with that Axe, Eugene" (three lives staples from that era), they also premiered two new pieces, "If" and the grandiose "Atom Heart Mother" suite. The latter, which was the title track of their new album (taking up an entire side of the vinyl), saw the band accompanied by the Philip Jones Brass Ensemble performing before a live audience, and was 1st broadcast on the 19th of July (and repeated throughout the 1970's).


On the 30th of September, 1971, Pink Floyd returned to London's Paris Cinema to promote their new album, "Meddle." The songs featured were "Fat Old Sun," "One of These Days I'm Going to Cut You into Little Pieces, "Echoes," "The Embryo," and finally a blues instrumental. This show was also performed before a live audience and was later broadcast on Peel's "In Concert" program on the 12th of October.


This was the first time that two key songs from their new album were performed on the BBC. "Echoes" had been through a number of iterations, originally starting out as a collection of unrelated segments stitched together and originally titled "The Return of the Son of Nothing."


Peel's dry sense of humour can be heard as he introduces this song, casually mentioning that the group's roadies Pete and Scott find it to be "a rather good number." Likewise, he sarcastically puts down Roger Waters' equally sarcastic contention that "Echoes" was about "modern contemporary society." [Peel makes this comment for "One of These Days" actually - ed] "One of These Days" was introduced as "Nick Mason's Vocal debut, which I am assured," announces Peel, "he will do without moving his lips."


While "Echoes" and "One of These Days" would soon appear on "Meddle, "Fat Old Sun" had been previously released on "Atom Heart Mother," and was expanded into a fourteen minute epic, showcasing the instrumental talents of Gilmour and Wright.


"The Embryo" has only been ever released on hte EMI/Harvest sampler "Picnic," in the UK (to the dismay of the band who regarded this track as "an unfinished demo"), and on the U.S. compilation "Works." This version of "The Embryo" is vastly different than the official releases as well as the version played on "Top Gear" in 1968, and is similar to the one played a year earlier on Peel's show.


"Blues" is just that, and as such it is a rarity. Recent Floyd shows have been such tightly timed visual extravaganzas, that there is little, if any room for musical interludes. Also note that this "Blues" number was never broadcast except for it's original airing on veteran Rock station WNEW in New York.


This is classic Pink Floyd, well on the way to becoming the mature band that would soon reach world-wide fame with it's 1973 album "The Dark Side of the Moon." What we have on this performance is a tight, professional band, who unlike in later years, found room for improvisation and a looseness that would slowly disappear from their repertoire.


Fans of the latter day Pink Floyd might be disappointed with this show, considering that the songs are slower and do not feature any of Gilmour's blistering guitar solos or Roger's biting and dark lyrics. But long-time fans of the band will delight in this golden era recording. This was a Pink Floyd performance without the aid of a sopisticated light show, lasers, back-up performers or inflatable pigs. This was purely the talents of Roger Waters on bass, David Gilmour on lead guitar and vocals, Richard Wright on keyboards and vocals and Nick Mason on drums (and pre-recorded vocals).


The celebrate the 25th anniversary of this show, only the highest quality sources were used to reproduce the original concert onto CD. The original BBC transcription LP's were comprised of "Fat Old Sun," "One of These Days" and "Echoes." This was later combined with their 1970 performance on John Peel's show by Westwood One, who acquired the rights in the mid 1980's (these two shows were independantly rebroadcast throughoout the 1970's on the syndicated "King Biscuit Flower Hour" and "The Best of the BBC Rock Hour").


Unfortunately, combining these shows also involved limited air time, and ultimately, "Fat Old Sun" and the first half of "Atom Heart Mother" were sacrificed and omitted from future broadcasts.


"Fat Old Sun" was recorded off an original BBC transcription LP directly onto DAT as well as the introductions to the new material from "Meddle." The first forty-five seconds of "Echoes" has also been restored, which remains edited, (as well as Peel's intros) from the combined shows.


"The Embryo" and "Blues" originate from a second generation analogue tape from WNEW's initial broadcast ("The Embryo," although broadcast in the UK, was never included on any of the radio transcription disks).


This CD was digitially remastered from these sources, in hopes of reproducing the finest and most accurate version of this historical show. - BEAKER


My disc sounds stereo to me! It is packaged with a booklet about BBC radio in the 70's (The John Peel show, Top of the Pops, and The Old Grey Whistle Test). It is packaged in the "tin can" referred to in the database. Track listing the same as Meddler. The Embryo has the WNEW announcement at 8:12. All other announcenments are on the disc.


Cover art differs from Meddler, looks like various constellations. Excellent disc now in stereo. Nice packaging. The Embryo and Blues have a little hiss from the analogue tape. - JZ


There may be more than one version of this disc around. The one I have seen is practically identical to Meddler and sounds mono to me. - DAve.


This is totally identical to "Meddler". So one can say exactly the same comments as for "Meddler": superb sound quality, BUT some annoying things that disappointed a lot of people (myself included).


The three opening bass lines, at the beginning of OOTD, are missing. During the "Echoes" intro (at 0:49), some applause can be heard (this was due to a mix between a BBC vinyl, used for the first minute of the song, and the Westwood One CD, that doesn't contain the whole intro). In the middle of "Embryo", there is a WNEW radio station ID (the two last tracks are taken from the WNEW's initial broadcast).


But there's another thing _very_ annoying: the whole CD is in mono, and not "well balanced" mono! I compared the first three tracks to the Swingin Pig's versions ("One Of These Days" RoIO, where the tracks are in stereo). I noticed that the mono sound in "The Floyd's Of London" was not a mix between the left and right channels of the stereo broadcast, but ONLY THE LEFT CHANNEL! So, Gilmour's guitars are far louder than Wright's keyboards! This is particulary sad during the "solid rhythm" section in "Echoes" (that begins at 8:52): Rick's organ seems to have disappeared (Rick begins to play at 9:25, but he's very distant). So, to _really_ enjoy FOT, OOTD and Echoes, I still listen to the Swinging Pig's version. Its' a pity, because the overall sound quality is better here.


Having say that, I'm very happy to own this RoIO, for the last two tracks.


It seems that the man who provided the DAT for "Meddler" has stereo masters (see comments' section for "Meddler"). Something happened during the mastering of the DAT, that lost the right channel and duplicated the left channel onto the two channels of the DAT, explaining the mono sound. It seems that this man re-mastered his masters to a new DAT, adding the missing bass lines at the beginning of OOTD, and adding John Peel's comments before "Embryo". He ran off 10 CDR's from it and gave them to people he knew. Let's hope these stereo versions will see the light of day (a future RoIO CD pressing?). If that happens, this could be the best RoIO of all times, reproducing the whole BBC concert with a breathtaking sound quality, in stereo. - MARC-OLIVIER.



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